Ladies and Gentlemen, it simply does not get any better than this! You just can’t make it up! The following is about as close to a debate with Mike Gendron as I have seen on Facebook. Victor Ajluni, part of our Catholic Defenders on Facebook, was able challenge Mike Gendron who responded to a very important question. When a number of us Catholics met over at the Grace Life Church to meet with Mike Gentron, he spoke for nearly 30 minutes challenging us to forsake our Catholic Faith, to forsake our Baptism, to forsake the Catholic priesthood, and to forsake Jesus in the Eucharist.
When the opportunity for a Catholic to respond was given, we were quickly interrupted by Mike Gendron even though members of his own group became interested in hearing the Catholic response. Mike Gendron intended to muzzle our voices, but he lost control when we took it to small groups. Jon Smiddy and I would hang there until about 8:00 talking to members of Grace Life Church. There is a lot of interest for the truth even in that assembly!
Then Catholic Radio invited Mike Gendron to give a 30 minute interview in which Oscar Cavazos, Paul Mathers, and I were able to come on and respond. Plus, this week we were responding to Jason Hauser and others and they seem to be on the run. Wes Hunt wrote an accellent article and he too was largely ignored. All this over on Mike Gendron’s Facebook page, “Proclaiming The Gospel”.
The following is the communication between Victor Ajluni and Mike Gendron:
After asking Mike Gendron about the gentile priesthood prophesied by Isaiah and Malachi, along with the world wide sacrifice of Malachi, the following conversation ensued:
7:43am (2 hours ago)
Mike G: What is your point?
Me: Where is your priesthood Mike? Isaiah and Malachi predict it. Malachi tells us of a clean sacrifice offered in every place among the gentiles. That excludes Calvary. Even Paul speaks of a Christian altar whose sacrifice belongs ONLY to Christians. Finally Paul tells us we must eat the LAMB. When do you eat the Lamb?
Mike G: Where does Paul say that?
Me: Heb. 10:25 We should not stay away from our assembly,* as is the custom of some, but encourage one another, and this all the more as you see the day drawing near.
Heb. 10:26 * If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins 27 but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.
Heb. 13:10 We have an altar* from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat.
What sacrifice is no longer available if we sin deliberately by abandoning the true Church?Where is your world wide, clean oblation among the Gentile nations?1 Cor 5 says: . 7 For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Let us, therefore, celebrate the festival
When do you eat the Lamb?
Mike G: Where does it say they ate the lamb?
Me: Are you really that dishonest? Where is your perfect sacrifice among the gentile nations? Where is your altar for said sacrifice? Don’t you know what we do with the sacrificed passover lamb?
Ex. 12:5 The lamb must be a year-old male and without blemish. You may take it from either the sheep or the goats.
Ex. 12:6 You shall keep it until the fourteenth day of this month, and then, with the whole assembly of Israel present, it shall be slaughtered during the evening twilight.
Ex. 12:7 They shall take some of its blood and apply it to the two doorposts and the lintel of every house in which they partake of the lamb.
Ex. 12:8 That same night they shall EAT its roasted flesh with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.
Ex. 12:11 “This is how you are to eat it: with your loins girt, sandals on your feet and your staff in hand, you shall eat like those who are in flight. It is the Passover of the LORD.
Ex. 12:14 “This day shall be a memorial feast for you, which all your generations shall celebrate with pilgrimage to the LORD, as a PERPETUAL institution.
In 1 Corinthians chapter ten, St. Paul is rebuking the Greek Christians in Corinth because they were not only coming to the Lord’s Supper, they were also still going to their pagan sacrifices! To summarize, St. Paul is evidently roaring — What are you doing?! Are you trying to provoke the Lord to jealousy? Don’t you Corinthians know that when the gentiles offer sacrifices to their gods they are not simply offering a sacrifice to a dead idol, they are offering sacrifices to demons! They are entering into a spiritual bond, a spiritual communion, with demons!
1 CORINTHIANS 10:14 “For this reason, my dearly beloved, flee from the service of idols. (15) I speak as to wise men: judge for yourselves what I say. (16) The cup of blessing which we bless, is it …
not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord?”
St. Paul doesn’t say it’s a symbol of the blood of Christ. He doesn’t say it’s a communion in the representation of the blood of Christ. St. Paul says it is a “communion of the blood of Christ”. He continues by exhorting the people:
1 CORINTHIANS 10:19 “What then? Do I say that what is offered in sacrifice to idols is anything? Or that the idol is anything? (20) But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons, and not to God. And I would not that you should be made partakers with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of demons (21) You cannot be partakers of the table of the Lord, and of the table of demons. (22) Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he?”
Notice the direct equivalency St. Paul establishes between the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons, the table of the Lord and the table of demons. This equivalency extends to the fact that both the offerings made to these first century demons as well as the offerings made to Yahweh through the Lord’s Supper are sacrificial in nature:
1 CORINTHIANS 10:20 “…they sacrifice to demons, and not to God. …(21) You cannot be partakers of the table of the Lord, and of the table of demons.”
The apostle could not have made this analogy unless he plainly understood there to be a proper sacrifice intrinsic to Christian worship. The “table of the Lord” is a familiar term in the Old Testament that refers to the altar of sacrifice (Lev 24:6-7; Ezek 41:22; 44:15; Mal 1:7, 12) and this association would have immediately been understood by St. Paul’s intended readers. St. Paul draws these parallels in order to say to the church at Corinth — You are God’s bride and you are engaging in spiritual adultery. You are to be exclusively devoted to God. You are not to be dividing your favors between Yahweh, your heavenly husband, and these spiritual surrogate husbands, these demons! Choose which sacrifice you will attend (Christian or pagan) — because you can’t attend both!
He abandoned the conversation for now. As you can see, for a man with all the answers, he has nothing but questions… End communication
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Catholic Church is like a roaring lion in a cage! Protestants like Mike Gendron think they can cage the Lion of Judah, but instead, he may have just grabbed the tiger by the tail!
The Eucharist is the sign of the Covenant!
“Jesus answered them and said, ‘Amen. amen, I say to you, you are looking for me not because you saw SIGNS but because you ate the loaves and were filled. Do not work for food that perishes but for the food that endures for eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him the Father, God, has set his seal.” So they said to him, ‘What can we do to accomplish the works of God?’ Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in the one he sent.” So they said to him, ‘WHAT SIGN CAN YOU DO, THAT WE MAY SEE AND BELIEVE IN YOU?”
It is interesting that the crowd was asking for a sign that they might believe in Jesus and follow him. At this point they were ready to make Jesus King. Jesus is King, but not over the temporal realm of Israel, but over the hearts and minds of those seeking the fullness of truth. At the elevation of the Eucharist in Mass, I exclaim in exultation in my heart and soul, “The Sign, the sign, my Lord and my God”! I love the prayer we say, “Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.” The Jews continued:
“What can you do? Our ancestors ate manna in the desert, as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’ So Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave the bread from heaven; my Father gives you the TRUE BREAD from heaven.” For the bread of God is that which comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
The bread that God gave the people in the desert was temporal, it sustained life for their earthly needs. The Bread that we receive at Mass is heavenly food that nurtures our souls. It is far more than satisfying the flesh, the bread of life we receive brings us close to the one the Father sent. Jesus promises, “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, then I will ENTER HIS HOUSE and dine with him, and he with me. I will give the victor the right to sit with me on my throne, as I myself first won the victory and sit with my Father on his throne. Whoever has ears ought to hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” At the Mass, we are called to participate with the worship of heaven, we receive the Lord of hosts at the Altar of the Lord.
“So they said to him, ‘Sir, give us this bread always’. Jesus said to them, ‘I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in will will never thirst. But I told you that although you have seen me, you do not believe. Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and I will not reject anyone who comes to me, because I came down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of the one who sent me. And this is the will of the one who sent me, that I should not lose anything of what he gave me, but that I should raise it on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life and I shall raise him on the last day”.
Jesus said, “While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke, and giving it to his disciples said, take and eat; this is my body. Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins”. This action Jesus uses to introduce the new and everlasting Covenant so that all of us would have the opportunity to receive Christ in the Mass. Regardless of time and space, Jesus is present in all the Catholic Churches around the world. He is being offered through His Church to all the nations, “For from the rising of the sun, even to its setting, my name is great among the nations; And everywhere they bring sacrifice to my name, and a pure offering; For great is my name among the nations, says the Lord of hosts (Malachi 1:11).
“The Jews murmured about him because he said, ‘I am the bread that came down from heaven,’ and they said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph? Do we not know his Father and Mother? Then how can he say, ‘I have come down from heaven?’ Jesus answered and said to them, ‘Stop murmuring among yourselves. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him on the last day. It is written in the prophets: THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT BY GOD.”
Just as people hearing Jesus murmured against what Jesus was telling them, today, many continue to show their lack of faith rejecting the teaching of Jesus for new gospels of symbolism. Man made denominations built on symbolism due to their own lack of faith putting faith in their own destructive doctrines. Jesus never spoke symbolically especially in this text where he was clear on what he is saying. When you walk up towards the Altar and you see the Minister elevate the host and say, “The body of Christ”, what is your response? Yes, we say “Amen“, but do we really believe? Does this Sign bring about conversion each time you receive? We are challenged by St. Paul as he writes, “You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and also the cup of demons, You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. Or are we provoking the Lord to jealous anger? Are we stronger than he?” We cannot compromise the truth of the Lord for our own lack of faith. We are called to believe in this Sign.
“Everyone who listens to my Father and learns from him comes to me. Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from God; HE HAS SEEN THE FATHER. Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE. Your ancesters ate the manna in the desert, but they died; this is the bread that comes down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”
Jesus has given us many miracles and signs throughout the centuries of his real presence in the Eucharist. He has given us everything but a neon sign pointing to the truth of the Catholic Church. Enemies of Christ will call this a “Pagan” ritual, they will call it a symbol, their rejection is seen clearly in their denial of the Eucharist. To deny this SIGN is to deny the Father’s will. Jesus said that if you believe in Him and receive this great SIGN, He will raise you up on that last day. St. Paul writes, “A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself” (1 Corinthians 11:28-29).
“The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’ Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, YOU DO NOT HAVE LIFE WITHIN YOU. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancesters who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever”.
We need to stop quarreling and start believing.
Let us be like the grateful Father who cried, “I do believe, help my unbelief!” Let us come to the Lord with our hearts full of joy and anticipation knowing that we are receiving the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar.
Let our “Amen” please the Lord who is the summit and founder of our Faith!
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