My Response to Jason Hauser

Posted by John Benko - January 23rd, 2014

Jason Hauser, representing the so-called [sic] “Proclaiming the Gospel” ministries responded to my public challenge for a debate with an email. Before I respond, point-by-point, let me jump forward to the very end. Through this entire post, I will block quote what Jason says in blue, then respond.

And no you do not have my permission to post this email or any portion of it online. Your conscience and whether you respect that or not is between you and God. I fear for you and the judgement that awaits you at the great white throne because you have not just rejected the gospel of grace but you are influencing others and have been thoroughly warned… (Reread Galatians 1-2)

First of all, Jason, it is a very small thing to me to be judged by you (1 Corinthians 4:3). I have, indeed, rejected what you falsely characterize as a ‘gospel of grace’ because it is exactly what my savior told me to do. I have rejected what you profess because it is a different gospel than the one clearly shown in Sacred Scripture. The true Gospel is not the Gospel of Grace, it is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That is, ALL of Jesus Christ- His Grace, yes, but also His Sovereignty, His justice and His church. You seek to replace the Jesus Christ of the Bible, who is Just Judge, High Priest, Lord and Savior and replace Him with one who is Savior only. In our blog,, we have systematically refuted each and every claim made to support your gospel and have upheld the gospel given to us by the Apostles. Thus, your fear for me and your warning to me will be greeted with a yawn and the rolling of my eyes.

As for your permission to post what you said, I do not need it. Any correspondence to deepertruthblog is the property of deepertruthblog. You knew that when you sent it. That you desire to hide in dark corners, lest your evil deeds be exposed, is not my problem. You earn respect by giving respect and I have nothing to be guilty of in exposing your claims and your conduct to proper scrutiny (‘your’ referring to you individually as well as your group collectively). Since you appeared to have sent this response via a private email, I will respect the confidentiality of that, but nothing more. We are going to air all of this out in the open, whether you like it or not. I am not bound to God to protect your right to be a coward and a hatemonger. I will expose you and bear no guilt whatsoever in doing it.

Now, let’s proceed…..

Hi John,

I am not sure exactly who I am speaking with here since I thought the guy who wears the Native American jacket ran the blog. Reread what was quoted on the Deeper Truth Blog to see what I said regarding the jacket. I was not criticizing your partner for his jacket or look, I merely described it as a Native American Jacket just as I did above. Do a google search for “native american jacket” if you think I misspoke in my attempt to describe what he was wearing as a means to identify him.
I will take you at your word that you were not criticizing his style of dress but merely identifying him. I can also understand why you would think of him as the face of Deepertruthblog since he has done the lion’s share of the content of late and is one of two members that reside in Texas. However, when I ended my email with “John Benko, founder of Deepertruthblog”, I should think that would have sufficed in identifying who I am.
Moving on…..
What I find really interesting is how you guys are professing Christians yet, would take a personal conversation of mine to an individual and post it online, attach my name, and criticize it. Read Matthew 18 if you’re not sure what’s wrong with responding to a supposed offense in such a way. If I said something publicly through PTG’s website, broadcast, or any other public forum, by all means, respond to it publicly. However, the way you guys executed this has caused me to lose all confidence and trust in your integrity and reaffirms your lack of adherence to biblical values.
Methinks thou doth protest too much. First of all, I have noticed that your side has a very hair-trigger sort of posture when it comes to condemning people and implying that they are not Christians. Most of the time, (as right here) you do so with the silliest of pretenses. There is nothing in the Bible that would prevent us from responding to your claims and defending ourselves. It is very interesting that you would offer Matthew 18, a chapter that explicitly shows the binding authority and infallibility of the [Catholic] Church, as a pretense
for denying us the right to make public something addressed to us. As for your contention that we should respond through PTG’s website, that is exactly the problem. When you make a public claim and it is countered with truth, your response is to remove the response and block the responder. It is the same motivation that causes you to want these conversations private. That motivation is simply that you know you teach falsehood and you know that falsehood doesn’t stand up to the plain truth of history and the Bible. You want to keep your followers ignorant and your opposition silenced. Well, we are at war here and we are going to fight to lead those souls to heaven just as hard as you are to mislead and confuse them with erroneous, slanderous and heretical claims. It is interesting that “Biblical values” only matter to you when you are attacking Catholics. Trespassing on private property and harassing genuine Christians on Christmas Eve is certainly nothing God would approve of nor is the constant unchecked slander that appears on your site and Facebook page. May I remind you that the Good Book equates slander with murder?
I’ve told Oscar this and I’ll tell you. I’m not interested in Bible study, debates, or investing any other time with your circle of devout Catholics. I’ve engaged with too many strong willed Catholics, Muslims, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and atheists over the years and am not convinced it is a good use of my time.
Well, your abject ignorance of Scripture sure is manifest evidence of your disdain for Bible Study. I do not know who Oscar is but I suppose that is not germaine to the point at hand. Juxtaposing us against Muslims, JWs and Atheists is pretty desperate stuff. None of them- as a group- were formed by the very hands of Jesus Christ, as our church was. None of them wrote the New Testament and compiled the Bible, as our church did. You seem to have plenty of time to attack catholics with your lies but when it comes to backing it up and defending your own position, not so much. That makes you a coward, Jason. You consider yourself a warrior for Christ but you are nothing more than a petulant little boy who throws stones then runs away. We devout Catholics, on the other hand, are not afraid to stand our ground and defend the true gospel against liars like you who seek to malign it. That is why when we call your bluff, your side always backs down. You are cowards because your man-made gospel comes from the greatest coward of all, Satan. If you believe what you supposedly stand for, why are you cowering in the corner? Let’s debate it in the open and let the people who hear it decide who is really proclaiming the gospel and who is proclaiming a false, easy-religion counterfeit.
I love sharing the Gospel with those who are genuinely interested and when the Holy Spirit is clearly at work. I shake the dust off my feet and leave you with a plea to start studying God’s Word and let it speak for itself. This is instead of using it out of context as a proof text for your traditions and teachings of men. You will never know the Gospel, experience the love and forgiveness found in Christ, or find joy purely in Jesus Christ if your motivation for opening God’s Word is as a tool to spar with those who disagree with you.
So now you are both the judge of men’s hearts and of the action of the Holy Spirit? Please, Jason, if you will, show me the chapter and verse where I can see that that authority has been vested in you. You are nothing but a man speaking for yourself so your plea or your dust is cause for nothing but a chuckle on my part. As for your hollow assertion that I use a passage ‘out of context’, you are engaging in the most ironic and amusing projection imaginable. It is precisely that kind of abuse of context that is the basis of your entire false gospel. I have read the whole Bible and I have let it speak for itself and it speaks- quite plainly- in direct opposition to everything you profess. It is you that isolates a verse here, a couple of sentences there (Romans 10:9, 4:1, Ephesians 2:8-9…a few others) to create an entirely new gospel. However, if you would just sit down and take your own advice and read the gospel, you could not make it through the first 25 chapters of Matthew before putting Sola Fide in the garbage can never to be heard from again.
I have read the Bible, sir and that is why I know that what you profess is simply nonsense. The Bible tells us that we will be judged by our deeds- in too many places to count. The Bible tells us that only those who forgive will be forgiven (Luke 6:37), only those who show mercy will be shown mercy (James 2:13) and that only those who persevere to the end will be saved (Matthew 10:22). The Bible, in fact, vindicates every single belief and doctrine Catholics profess but you would rather remain in your willful blindness than engage in that conversation. All the worse for you on judgement day when all the Catholics you have maligned will be raised up as witnesses against you.
If you’d like a debate, contact James White ( I don’t believe he turns down any opportunities for a debate and he’s much smarter and better versed than I am. I’m passionate about sharing the Gospel and giving biblical truth to those who are genuinely listening and interested.
James White is a small and bitter little man and the most pathetic debater I have ever seen. His defense of Sola Scriptura is the very definition of Cognitive Dissonance and his blather about Revelation 17 and 18 has been absolutely disintegrated on our very blog. Nevertheless, my challenge was to you. If James White wants to debate me, I’d be happy to and would eat him alive. That is not the conversation we are having here. I am challenging you to back up your claims and assertions and you are not man enough to do it.
The Proclaiming the Gospel website does not attack anyone. It merely responds to false religions and practices with God’s Word. Your problem is not with such a ministry but rather someone lovingly telling you the truth that you have been deceived by the traditions of men. What you do with such warnings is between you and the Lord. If you reject the warnings given there is nothing more to say to you.
Really? This polemic is on your website right now;
Pope Francis visited a cemetery in Rome last Friday in observance of the Roman Catholic holiday All Saints’ Day to pray for the dead and bless the graves of the departed. He celebrated the blasphemous representation of the Eucharistic Christ during mass and ask the dead saints to pray for those who remain alive. “The saints who stand before the face of the Lord, pray for us, for this our city, and for the whole world, that everywhere the peace of Christ may shine brightly,” he said. “He is our peace and eternal life.”
Now, if characterizing the Eucharist as blasphemous and the Saints as “dead saints” is not an attack, I do not know what would be. This is just one example of the outright hostility and hypocrisy that characterizes your [sic] “ministry”. The Eucharist was instituted by Jesus Himself. Perhaps you didn’t read His own words in John 6. Let me help you with that, since you did point out that we should let God’s word speak for itself;
53 So Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever eats me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like that which your ancestors ate, and they died. But the one who eats this bread will live forever.”
This is one of those passages that you claim we take out of context as if ‘context’ is a foil you can use to avoid confronting the reality of Scripture. Paul certainly understood what Jesus was saying.
14 Therefore, my dear friends,[c] flee from the worship of idols. 15 I speak as to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread. 18 Consider the people of Israel;[d] are not those who eat the sacrifices partners in the altar? 19 What do I imply then? That food sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be partners with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. 22 Or are we provoking the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he? (1 Corinthians 10)
27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For all who eat and drink[h] without discerning the body,[i] eat and drink judgment against themselves. (1 Corinthians 11)
Are not Paul’s letters to the church at Corinth Scripture? Did John not record our savior’s words correctly? Here is where all your bitter anti-Catholic polemics disintegrate into dust. Here is where you, Jason, are hoisted by your own petard. There is one reason only why you refuse to debate me. It is because you know that I will confront you with proof texts like 1 Corinthians 11:27-29 and you will be convicted by them and defenseless against them. Any plea to ‘context’ will be instantly recognized for it’s desperation. The text, as you yourself pointed out, speaks for itself. Jesus plainly says that the bread and cup are His body and blood and we are to receive it as such. Paul says- just as clearly- that to deny the reality of transubstantiation is to damn yourself! I do not need my judgment to know that you are tinkering on the razor’s edge of hell by your blasphemy and intransigence. Here, God’s very inspired Word spells it out with frightening clarity.
The same is true of your characterization of the Saints as ‘dead saints’. The Sadducees tried that one too.

27 Some Sadducees, those who say there is no resurrection, came to him 28 and asked him a question, “Teacher, Moses wrote for us that if a man’s brother dies, leaving a wife but no children, the man[b] shall marry the widow and raise up children for his brother. 29 Now there were seven brothers; the first married, and died childless; 30 then the second 31 and the third married her, and so in the same way all seven died childless. 32 Finally the woman also died. 33 In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife will the woman be? For the seven had married her.”

34 Jesus said to them, “Those who belong to this age marry and are given in marriage; 35 but those who are considered worthy of a place in that age and in the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. 36 Indeed they cannot die anymore, because they are like angels and are children of God, being children of the resurrection. 37 And the fact that the dead are raised Moses himself showed, in the story about the bush, where he speaks of the Lord as the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. 38 Now he is God not of the dead, but of the living; for to him all of them are alive.” (Luke 20)

The debate has occurred and you- and your anti-Christian doctrines have been soundly and unassailably defeated.
Here are a few articles that might be of interest that I would encourage you to read. Feel free to respond to this author publicly if you feel he is in error.
Since you were too much of a coward to confront the evidence I presented, I see no obligation to be handed off to a third party. You have now been presented the truth. I have proven that “proclaiming the gospel” is a false ministry that would be far more approprietly called “denying the gospel”. If you decide to man-up and confront the evidence I have presented here in an open and honorable way, that invitation stands open. On any doctrine, we will use the proof of Scripture and history to disprove your anti-Christian position and vindicate our genuinely Christian position. If you continue to operate in the shadows, you concede your own defeat and we are done here. I will pray for all of you that God removes the scales from your eyes before you go to your own place as Judas (and Luther and Calvin) did.

The Catholic Defender: St. Lucy, Virgin And Martyr

Posted by John Benko - December 14th, 2013

When I was coming home to my Catholic Faith in the late 1970′s, one of the early Catholic Martyrs that had such a great impact on me was St. Lucy.

The college environment was in full transition, the culture was beginning to push the progressive movement.

For the progressive movement to catch a foothold in the United States, much of our innocence had to be compromised.

The divorce rate was bordering 50% even by the summer of 1976.  When I was interviewed by my High School newspaper, I told the paper that my favorite band was a group called the Eagles and my favorite singer was Elton John.

At that time I was not strong in faith and I was not aware of the values and morals this actually would support.

Elton John, for example, had not come out of the closet with his homosexual agenda.  I remembered his song “Crocodile Rock” and that was a favorite song of mine at the time.  That was a song that reminded me of the sock hop dances at school.

College life in 1977 would be a different scene.  I am thankful that the Lord spared me of the progressive movement because of my interest in playing baseball.  Instead of experimenting with the party life, I’d be out running 5 miles or in the gym.  I would go to the school dances but most of that was exercise.

It was the fall of 1978 that I began to rediscover perhaps for the first time the importance of my Catholic Faith.  The story of St. Lucy intrigued me greatly because of her courage.

St. Lucy lived in the early 4th century during a massive persecution of the Catholic Church.  She was a very beautiful young woman whom I wondered how she would have lived in our time.

As a young beautiful woman, many men wanted to take her hand in marriage and her Mother wanted to arrange a wedding for St. Lucy.  That never materialized because of St. Lucy’s love and commitment to Jesus Christ.  She wanted to be one of Our Lady’s maids who are presented before the King (Psalms 45:15).

St. Lucy dedicated her life solely to the Lord.  She would pray at the tomb of St. Agatha and through her intercession, her Mother was cured of a long illness miraculously.

This led to her Mother’s conversion to Christ, but that did not stop the suitors seeking St. Lucy’s hand in marriage.

The rejected bridegroom accused St. Lucy of being a Christian.  He took his case to the Governor who sent her to a house of prostitution.

The Lord worked wondrous miracles through St. Lucy.  Her guards found her “stiff and heavy as a mountain”.  They could not budge her.

While in this house of ill repute, any man who looked upon her lustfully lost their sight.  Can you imagine such a sight? They would receive their sight back upon her intercession. In the above picture, notice the eyes placed in her plate.  This depicts God’s grace given her for protection.

The Governor was wanting to save her life because she was so beautiful, but her faith was immoveable.  Can you imagine what it would be like today if men were to treat women like they were ladies?

Many women today are much like those captives “weighed down by sins, led by various desires, always trying to learn but never able to reach a knowledge of the truth”.  (2 Timothy 3:6-7)

Because of their rebellion, “God handed them over to degrading passions.  Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another”. (Romans 1:26-27)

If I thought it was bad in 1978, going back to college in 2013 is a total shock.  Our holy Catholic Faith is under attack on all fronts around the world.  It is like we have lost all common sense.  We really need St. Lucy today more than ever as a role model.

St. Lucy suffered torture during the terrible reign of Diocletian and is remember today as the Patron Saint of the blind and those with eye trouble.

What courage St. Lucy demonstrated because of her strong faith.  She contended for the Faith with her life as many of the Saints.  Today she is among the great cloud of witnesses who greatly encouraged me at a critical time in my life.

I have stood up for the faith millions of times the past 35 years eventually going to many places in the world.  St. Lucy was a great motivation for me.  I wanted to have that kind of faith.  Her feast day is 13 December.

Saint Lucy, you did not hide your light under a basket, but let it shine for the whole world, for all the centuries to see. We may not suffer torture in our lives the way you did, but we are still called to let the light of our Christianity illumine our daily lives. Please help us to have the courage to bring our Christianity into our work, our recreation, our relationships, our conversation — every corner of our day. Amen 

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The Catholic Defender: Jeremiah 29:5

Posted by John Benko - December 11th, 2013

“Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, to all the exiles whom I exiled from Jerusalem to Babylon: Build houses to dwell in; plant gardens, and eat their fruits.” Jeremiah 29:4-5

This Prophet Jeremiah sent a letter from Jerusalem to the remaining elders who were exiled to Babylon.

This letter was addressed to the priests, the prophets and all the captives who were exiled by King Nebuchadnezzar.

Jeremiah writes, “This was after King Jeconiah and the Queen Mother, the courtiers, the princes of Judah and Jerusalem, the artisans and the skilled workmen had left Jerusalem.  Delivered in Babylon by Elasah, son of Shaphan, and by Germariah, son of Hilkiah, whom Zedekiah, king of Judah, sent to the King of Babylon” Jeremiah 29:1-3

Notice that the King of Judah, King Jeconiah is listed first and then the Queen Mother! The King reigned for only three months but he did what was not pleasing before the Lord.  Most of the Kings of Israel were not faithful which is why they were exiled to Babylon.

What is it that God was wanting to say to the People of God living in exile? To “build houses to dwell in, plant gardens, and eat their fruits.  Take wives and beget sons and daughters; find wives for your sons and give your daughters husbands, so that they may bear sons and daughters.  There you must increase in number, not decrease.  Promote the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you; pray for it to the Lord, for upon its welfare depends your own.”

Jeremiah 29:16 has this to say, “Thus says the Lord concerning the king who sits on David’s throne, and all the people who remain in this city, your brethren who did not go with you into exile; thus says the Lord of hosts: I am sending against them sword, famine and pestilence.  I will make them like rotten figs, too bad to be eaten.  I will pursue them with sword, famine, and pestilence, astonishment, ridicule, and reproach to all the nations among which I will banish them.  For they did cot listen to my words, says the Lord, though I kept sending them my servants the prophets, only to have them go unheeded, says the Lord.”

When we see the conditions the people of God was having to deal with, this provides us today hope that no matter how difficult things are, God is with us.

Isaiah 51:14 states, “The oppressed shall soon be released; they shall not die and go down into the pit, nor shall they want for bread.”

Jesus is the one whom liberates his people through a new and everlasting Covenant.  Isaiah 61:1-3 states, “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me; He has sent me to bring glad tidings to the lowly, to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives and release to the prisoners, To announce a year of favor from the Lord and a day of vindication by our God, to comfort all who mourn; To place on those who mourn in Zion a diadem instead of ashes, To give them oil of gladness in place of morning, a glorious mantle instead of a listless spirit.  They will be called oaks of justice, planted by the Lord to show his glory.”

This is a great message for Advent and Christmas because Jesus is the Bread of life.  He is the Savior of the world.  For the exiles Jesus gives the foundation that we stand.  He is our Rock, giving us the Church to set the captives free.

We are living today as exiles, we are pilgrims living in a strange land.  So, as God’s people, the Catholic Church, let us build our houses and plant our crops, and eat the produce of the land.  We are not a people who believe in the “gospel” of wealth such as some of our Protestant friends believe, but to be responsible stewards of the earth.

Let us live out our faith in the face of war, famine, and pestilence being a sign for others in troubled times.  Where King Jeconiah was short lived and displeasing to the Lord, Our Lord Jesus Christ is without end and His Queen Mother is our spiritual Mother as well.  What a joy to remember as exiles living in a strange land, to know that the Kingdom of God is in our midst, in every Catholic Church around the world, in the hearts of all the faithful. 

Advent and Christmas reminds us of our ultimate future.  God bless you all.

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The Catholic Defender: The Dan Quinn Story

Posted by John Benko - December 7th, 2013

Tonight, Saturday night, live Deepertruth will host Dan Quinn to the show that will give his story of Faith and family.                     (

I first met Dan at Gardner Kansas when I was up their visiting family.

Gardner has a dynamic Catholic Parish (Divine Mercy Parish) and I met so many great people of faith there.

Dan has a strong faith and his testimony will inspire many people.

He is a huge Missouri Tiger fan being that he studied at the University of Missouri.  The Tigers have a huge game today with Auburn which should be a great match up.

Dan Quinn is a Catholic Author with a book about the Immaculate Conception on Amazon. 

Currently, it is the top Amazon book about the Immaculate Conception subject.  

He is a strong family man who is very energetic about his faith!

We are celebrating the second Sunday of Advent and that means we are moving closer and closer to Christmas.

So we are definitely getting ready for Christmas.  I will be meeting my Wife, Gigi and family who are stationed in Gardner Kansas so I will be graced to be attending Midnight Mass at Divine Mercy Parish.

I am following a couple of other things today as America remembers 7 December 1941, when America was brutally attacked by Japan.

This attack on Pearl Harbor would be the greatest attack on American soil 72 years ago today. 

More than 2400 American Troops died during this attack and another 1,143 were wounded.

The following day, President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared that December 7 would be “a date that will live in infamy”.  That statement would be very true.

On December 8, (the Feast of the Immaculate Conception) the United States declared War on Japan bringing America into World War II.

Today is also the Feast of St. Ambrose, most remembered for his defense of the Catholic Church against the Roman Emperors who felt they were more privileged than the rank and file laity.  He stood up against tyranny.  He is probably most know for his influence with St. Augustine.  

St. Ambrose was very much like King Hezekiah, who  took out the Pagan idols out of Israel (2 Kings 18:4).  St. Ambrose did much to outlaw Pagan practices.  That is interesting to me because anti-Catholics make the attacks that Catholics brought in Paganism.  That is false.

Today, there is an attack on Christmas from different groups.  From those who do not like Santa Clause such as Representative Michele Marie Bachmann, (one of the few disagreements I have with her) to the Secularists who fight to take Christ out of public life.

In the picture above, I am left to Santa and prepared to help him defend Christmas against those who seek to destroy it.  On this occasion, Santa visited me when I was in Iraq.

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